Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: All right, then, everyone buckle up because today's guest, Alan, has done it all. He's a tech wizard, trained at an Olympic left level in Taekwondo. Right?
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: And Mr. USA, I, when I've been looking through, I've seen you've done a whole host of podcasts.
How are you doing?
[00:00:25] Speaker B: I'm doing all right. Yes.
That's a pretty great intro. Yeah, no, I'm doing great. How about yourself, man?
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm. I. I am. I'm good. It's that time of year where everything's festive and expensive, but yeah, 20, 25 around the corner. If you set yourself any big goals for next year. What are you looking at, man?
[00:00:45] Speaker B: I'm just looking to advance my career in the. In the fight game. So hopefully get a championship opportunity for power Slap. Got three movie roles that I'm excited to play. One of them is coming up here pretty shortly. It's a action movie. I'm playing like a Secret Service, sort of like corrupt person, but, you know, it's an action scene, so I'm excited about that.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: That's really cool.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: Let's get into it. When I was looking through, I saw you were doing stuff early in the days at Apple. You're a cyber defense expert, an actor. It is such a unique mix.
If you could choose one of those paths, say, for the rest of your life, which one would it be and why Is that the most fulfilling fit for you?
[00:01:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, everything I'm doing is something that I'm good at, that I enjoy doing, that I know I can excel in to reach an overall goal. So I'm just gonna have to. I've had this question so many times, I'm just gonna say, I love my life. I'm gonna keep going the way I'm going. I'm gonna keep doing all these things because that's the only way I know how to do it. So. Yeah, yeah.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: I mean, hats off. I don't know how you find the time to do all of it. I think that's the thing I struggle with the most.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: It's hard.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I can imagine. Because you've got the full time cyber defense day job.
And how does that work? Because for me, doing stuff for this, I've got to like, book holiday to make exceptions for stuff. I'm guessing that's similar. Is that how you work it as well?
[00:02:19] Speaker B: Yeah. So the beauty of my job is it comes with a lot of paid time off. So when you're on, you're on, but when you're off. You know, you're still working nine to five, but they encourage you to take, you know, your accrued paid time off, basically. So that's, that's why I'm able to do a lot of the extracurricular stuff, you know, and you have to get approval for a lot of things. Knowledge. Yes. Which I know, done. But.
But yeah, I mean, that's basically it. Right now I'm on paid time off for the holidays, so, you know, shout out. I could have taken a free week off, but I would have had to alternate and so I had to take the, you know, I had to use paid time off to take two weeks off, which I'm not worried about. It was great. Absolutely great. So thank you. Us.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: What was that? Sorry.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: Thank you. Usaf.
Yeah.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: With such an impressive resume, I think what I was wondering is who, who are you at the core really? If you strip away all the titles and achievements and everything you've done so far, what's left? How would you describe yourself?
[00:03:22] Speaker B: I mean, I don't know. I think I was put here to, to help people and to do that, you know, not just like, help individuals or on like a low skill. I really do believe I was. My purpose is to help, you know, the masses. So I'm doing everything I can to build up a career and in a life that can help lead me in a way and provide me an opportunity to help the most people. So that's, that's who I am. I don't know. That's my ethos. I love Jesus and that's kind of like my driving factor. Yeah, okay.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, I get that. So how do you do that? In, in what sense? Because obviously, entertainment wise, I can see it, but maybe there's more to it outside that maybe people don't see because you're not, they're not on. You're not on the screen or whatever it is.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I think everything I'm doing sort of like leads into that factor of like, like the bigger platform you have, the more you're able to influence people. And sometimes it's just simply having a platform to speak and, and encourage people. You know, that's one way to do it. Another way to do it is to help influence, you know, government or policies or anything like that. Like that can help, you know, your, the people around you. Whether it's a state level. In the United States, you know, we have our individual states, so it could be on the state level, it could be on the federal level, which is national, that would be super duper. And if not, sometimes it's just celebrities and fighters alike influence people across the world and you have a few that do such a great job of motivating people and creating opportunities for other people to like, to help people. And so if you can help other people, help people too. That's like ultimately, you know, that's like the incredible goal that everyone strives after. It's rather than just, you know, doing a one off or something like that that you can inspire other people to want to continuously help and make the world a better place and things like that.
[00:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I'm guessing this is the one you probably get asked about the most, but I think it's probably the most. When I was looking through kind of say, let's say your timeline, it's quite obscure. And this is obviously your cyber defense role. Yeah. Like halfway through, you then went to university and studied for I think it was like five years.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: And then where did that come from? Because obviously I think, I think from the top of my head, you'd already had your first role on tv. Was that right?
[00:05:49] Speaker B: I was in the middle of, of doing my degree when I started with, with acting. Yeah.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: Yeah, that's about right. Time is so obscure.
When was that exactly? Yeah, no, that's. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's roughly the same time. Yeah, you're, you're pretty much right.
[00:06:08] Speaker A: So what is, where'd that come from then? Was it something you were always interested in or, or.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I had done local, you know, commercial things and I had done theater. And when I was a missionary, when I was younger, I did a lot of, like most of what we did was theater based.
So creating skits for particularly kids in the uk, I'm not going to lie, are quite difficult to get engaged, especially in their siblies or, you know, even in classroom settings. It's still quite difficult because the kids, they don't want to be viewed as what I consider weak, you know, amongst their friends or, you know, I don't know exactly what that is, but the dead face of like 600 kids trying to entertain them, to get them to laugh or engage in any way, shape or form is like, oh man. Like in the US you could easily, like, even if they think it's dumb, they'll get involved. But in the uk, I always found that it was like zero response whatsoever. And if you got a laugh, you knew that you were funny. Right. Like that was, that was something that was like oh dude, we made kids laugh today. Everybody like, no way. You know, anyway, anyway, so that's like creating those types of things and being involved in acting both, you know, when I was younger through you know, legitimate roles or just being in theater in class or plays or whatever else. And then you know, we had to create like promotional videos and stuff like that when I was doing the missionary stuff thing as well. And so I, I guess that that has always been a part of my life, kind of like martial arts, but. But yeah, I don't know if that answers your question or not, but yeah.
[00:07:43] Speaker A: Yeah, for most people, like I'd say, I'll take me as an example, a typical day at work means sitting through zoom calls, visiting sites and drinking probably too much coffee. Yeah. I imagine for you it's probably a little bit more different. And I get you probably can't go to too much detail, but is it, is it like saving the world from digital chaos as I imagine?
[00:08:04] Speaker B: Sometimes it is, sometimes it is like yeah, I do incident response based things so like I'm a part of a team and you know, and that team is a part of a bigger team and we get missions handed down from on high and you know, a lot, a lot of what we do is you know, f around and find out basically because something has flagged something and someone can't tell us something. So then we have to figure out, okay, well what is this exactly and where do we fit in into finding this thing? You got to get permissions out the wazoo to some, there are some people that get to just willy nilly like hop on systems and do things. I, I'm not privy to be on most of those teams yet. So I'm trying to get there. But, but, and that's simply because I'm a defense operator. Right. So that's, yeah. As opposed to offensive is a little bit more incognito.
But we, we don't mess around. We're one of the best and, and I really enjoy my job. So yeah, we hunt and find, you know, I don't know, cyber threats I guess is what you could say. So that's, that's the way we frame them.
And you know, if we find it, we find it. If we don't, we have reason to believe that there's nothing there based off of a percentage which is usually, you know, within the 99 percentile. And if not, then we, you write an action report that goes up the chain and it they send somebody else out that has different skills or a different system to Check stuff. And yeah, it's, it's pretty interesting and unique. So I don't know if that explains it very well or not, but.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I was visioning like the modern day 007 in my head.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: So we do some of that, but for another time, right behind the scenes.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: Right. I want to get a little bit nerdy. Previously you stated that Christopher Reeve, Superman, an absolute icon, is your favorite Superman. Have you seen the most recent trailer for the new one that's coming out?
[00:10:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yep.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: What's your thoughts?
[00:10:09] Speaker B: You know, I was a little hesitant until I saw that trailer and knowing James Gunn and knowing, well, like, I, I asked some people in the Hollywood realm to see some behind the scenes stuff because I really am a little too invested as a Superman fan, I'm gonna be honest.
Until they called in some favorites there. But I, I really like it. I really like it a lot. I think it's gonna be a phenomenal film. I, I dog so hard on Henry Cavill's version of man of Steel. And I always say it's just the man of Steel and it's not Superman because I never felt like he really was Superman. I felt like he was just a guy in the Superman suit, just kind of like filling the role, you know, it's just like, oh, he looks like Superman. It's like, yeah, well, you can't look like you have to be Superman. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, he just never nailed it, you know? And I, I don't know. I, I, I say that because I really love Henry Cavill. He's like, phenomenal actor, don't get me wrong. So. And I know there's a plethora of people that are going to murder me later, so.
But I like this one. This dude, he's like 6 4. He's like 230 now. He's super like, I was like, this guy's Superman. And I don't know.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm super jealous when you drop that little behind the scenes stuff. I wish I had that kind of clout to be able to go see some of my favorite films behind the scenes and find out little nuggets that people don't talk about. That's, that's a skill set, isn't it, that you've. Yeah. Not about what you know, it's about who you know. Right.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: Yeah. You gotta be, I think if you're nice and you help people along the way, they'll help you out. And sometimes it comes with some Friends, benefits that, you know, they're a little tough.
Yeah.
[00:11:42] Speaker A: I want to ask you. And we've got one thing that's obvious which we can't use, but if you could change one thing about Christopher Reeve's Superman, his powers personality or maybe that questionable curl that I think about, what would you change? And obviously you can't say kryptonite allergy or is his.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Well, that. That makes him Superman. That would be.
Can't. You can't take that away, man. I don't. Yeah, that's a. That's a phenomenal question. Because I really felt like he nailed who Superman was because he had that dorky behind the scenes, like, you really, like, everyone rags on. It's like, oh, he takes off his glasses. But the way he carried himself and all that other stuff, it's like, well, actually, you probably would be like, that guy kind of looks like Superman, but you would never be like, oh, no, that's definitely him. Because he played Clark Kent so well, as well as being Superman on the flip side of that. So I would say, I mean, sure, it was a little campy, I guess maybe, like. But that was kind of like the spirit of Superman is like true justice in the American way. Right. Like, that's the whole. That's the jazz. So I. I don't know, maybe that. Yeah.
[00:12:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
When. When Angus first mentioned you and started talking about you, one thing I didn't realize, I mean, if I'm honest, until I watched a few of your slap competitions, I was probably on that same bandwidth as everyone else of, like, power slap. Like, it's just a. It's just a head case for cte. People are just going to have, like, mad brain injuries. I watched your fight with.
I forgot the guy with the beard. He. I mean, he absolutely walloped you. And then I went on to watch the other ones. I've gotten his name. Sorry.
And I was like, okay, now I get it. And. And I've been, like, really into it since. It's. It's one of those things I've got to say to anyone that watches this, don't not watch it. And slate it. Watch it. And then. And then come back and leave a comment because it completely changed me. But one thing I didn't realize was that obviously you're also trained in Taekwondo to an Olympic level, and obviously you want to get into martial arts and you're kind of looking to stuff that. That kind of stuff. I imagine, like, getting to the level that you got to in Taekwondo is kind of becoming a Jedi, but without all the bruises. What's the lesson from all those years of training that stuck with you, man?
[00:14:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. I think for me, at a time, like, where I was, there was a lot of gang violence, and my dad and both my parents worked, like, a lot. So when they took me there, I really felt like I kind of had a father figure in my dojo. Master and he. I guess he just really instilled discipline and treating others well. And not like he was all about good grades and not doing drugs. Like, he kicked people out that probably could have gone on to be an Olympic champion because they, you know, got involved with drugs or whatever else, or even just an affiliation with gangs or something like that, he would just kick him out and he would give him a second chance if they wanted to come back. But if they said, no, you know, I'm gonna keep doing those things, like, all right, see you. So he was kind of like that old school Mr. Miyagi, but Master Juarez was his name, so. But yeah, I mean, just the discipline and being good natured, like, it's kind of like, I'm not gonna lie, like, anything to do with Superman, like, totally reflects that, like one. So just being good natured, treating your fellow man well, and being disciplined in the sense that, like, if you're going to do something, you know, we went to the umpteenth degree, like we would do when we were on the tournament team.
You would do like. Like the beginning of a Saturday, basically was like, you would do 500 push ups, and then you do 500 sit ups, and then you would run a mile, and then sometimes we would go run 10 miles, like, just willy nilly, like, all right, instead of doing practice, today, we're gonna go run 10 miles. And I was pretty young at the time, so I was like, that was. I don't know, it was pretty impactful for me because it was kind of like, I don't know, you had to ascend to this position of like, okay, I'm willing to go way past, like, the normal person because they're. We're in the normal classes, but we're also on this tournament team. And so you had people that were not willing to cross that threshold of, I'm going to be absolutely disciplined in this thing and become the best. And it really showed. So he trained, you know, a few Olympians, and he was. I think he was the seventh degree, working on his eighth when I left. And so, you know, he. He was quite disciplined himself, and he really trained people to that, to that level. And I think that's always stuck with me. So outside of the flexibility, that's something that stuck with me. So.
Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Why did you never go the, the full way, if that makes sense? Was it because you wanted to pursue other things or.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: We moved and I couldn't find somebody to train me that was capable of getting me there. Basically didn't have the connections and didn't know how to train somebody, like, you know, and like, take you to all these different tournaments and stuff like that. That's. That's what it's about. You need someone who's like, heavily involved, you know, day in and day out, like, able to communicate with other people about you and stuff like that. So.
And I just couldn't find it where it was. So.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: Yeah, so I mentioned it earlier, you've got an amateur MMA record. When you took this or this power slap opportunity came to you, did you see that as a way into the ufc, or was it completely. Were you thinking something else?
[00:17:08] Speaker B: No, yeah, that's. Absolutely. I mean, it's on my profile on, on powerslap.com you can see it. It's like I wholeheartedly, I had a conversation with Uriah Faber when I was out in Abu Dhabi, actually. This is hilarious. So, like super late, and I, and I was a little. I was like three sheets to the wind. And, and I came across him and I was like, what is Uriah Favor doing just sitting out by himself, right?
Like, a little apparition came. I was like, am I that drunk? So anyway, I went up to him, you know, because I had to make sure. I was like, there's no shot. And then for. For sure it was him. He was there, like the next day. He was coaching some people out there. And so I'm talking like 3:30, 4:00 in the morning, this guy's out there on a. On an iPad, talking to me, taking notes about fights, about his fighters, who he's fight, who they're fighting, what they could do better, and like, just nailing down the last little intricacies of what he could tell them while they're out there. And I was just like, how's this guy's amazing. I'm going to be honest with you. So anyway, he gave me a game plan on what I could do to maybe make it to the ufc. And he was like, most people at your age have a 2%, maybe at the best, 5%. He was like, honestly, with, with the power side thing and everything else, you got like a 10 chance right. He's like, so that's way better than anybody else in general to begin with. It's like.
But. But yeah, he kind of road mapped it out for me, and I wish I had that when I first started with Power Slap, because that's something I've been looking for, and I've been training in mma, you know, in boxing and kickboxing and things like that. That's. Yeah, It's. It's absolutely 100 on my mind. That's a really long winded way of saying yes, 100%. I would love to be. I. I think being a UFC fighter would be very fulfilling for me, at least.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: It's a. It's a pretty good job, isn't it, to. To put on the resume with. Along with everything else that you've got.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: I agree. Yeah.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: I also touched on, obviously, watching your Power Slap fight, so one thing that really kind of stood out to me that I noticed was your technique changed.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Y.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: You went from the kind of typical full extension, so more of a. A shorthanded gear up. What. What's the thinking behind that? Because it's one thing I thought was like, why have you changed that?
[00:19:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, so speed, I guess, is really what it boiled down to.
And I. I guess the muscle groups I was training at the time, I couldn't generate as much speed with the traditional slap, which I've changed. But, yeah, for the past few, I. I don't know, it was entertaining. And then also it was very fast and powerful. I was able to get a 225 pound bob off the ground with it, you know, so I was like, this should be suitable for Power Slap. But, yeah, anyway, I've changed it. I've changed the different muscle groups that I've been working on, and in my, you know, how I stretch and things like that. And so it's. It's going to be different the next time I'm not there.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: So that's interesting. How do you. How do you see the evolution of Power Slap? Because if we look at, say, the early days of Ultimate Fighting Championship, it was kind of that karate versus Jiu Jitsu, and it evolved, and now we've got like a real mixture. How do you see Power Slap going? Do you think it'll go the same way where people would develop new, new techniques and stuff like that?
[00:20:20] Speaker B: I think so. And, and I'm curious to see where the promotion goes with some of this stuff because, like, at the end of the day, there is a limited range of what we can do, right? Now, so if they change that on some level, you know, because I understand the impact point is to minimize, you know, concussive damage, basically, is what it boils down to. They're like, hey, this is the strike zone. Because otherwise, you know, we're just allowing you to take a massive hit on someone. So, like, that's, you know, that's valid. But. But, like, maybe the way we do strikes and stuff like that, I. I think that would be really interesting. And obviously, you have people coming from different leagues and different parts of the world that have competed. Like, a lot of people don't know that this has already existed for quite some time.
And there are different leagues, and there is an Eastern European league, and I think there's a league in the UK even. You know, it's like, this is not something like. Like, Dana White has just made this a big promotion and. And done a great job making it healthy and, you know, really getting our name out there and things like that, too. So, yeah, I would say that's the value of. Of power Slack. But how it changes, I mean, that. That's really up to the athletic commissions and. And the promotion itself. So.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. Yeah, makes sense.
Speaking of weirdly punishing hobbies, I want us to talk about rock climbing. It's something that I've done, and I've spent quite a bit of time rock climbing.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: That's awesome.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: When you're halfway up a wall and, you know, I mean, I've had it a few times where you kind of get stuck and you have the shakes and you're thinking, I can't reach that. But your friend's telling you basically, just move a foot and you can.
What's your kind of. What do you do in that moment? Do you risk it all and hope for the best, or do you, like, kind of try to dyno and tell everyone your hands are so sweaty.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: I mean, I've had that moment, especially rock climbing, but I totally know what you're talking about. Like, that is a real reach there. But. But, yeah, no, I mean, that's it. I either go all in or I say I'm out. You know? Like, that's just basically.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Yeah, we got a rope there. That's what it's for. Unlike Alex. Alex Honold.
Absolute nut job.
Oh, I lost myself there. Oh, yeah, there we go.
One of the. One of the matches. One of the matches I watched which interested me the most were. Is when you fought Cole or slap Cole. Yeah. I think that he flinched for every single shot, even the one they Said at the end, landed. Oh, yeah.
What was going through your head at that time? When. When. Obviously, because I was like, there's. That's. That's another flinch. Like, the guy's got to be finished. How do you kind of recuperate and then go. Right? I mean, I should have won, but here we go.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, I did. I ended up winning. I. I just wanted the knockout at the end of the day, which I think I would have had on him, but he kept leaning into it, and it changes. It really is a phenomenal defensive tactic. Like, we've had somebody who got knocked down, and they were basically going to lose, and so they flinched into it just so that they could get the strike count up and they didn't look. You know, it just changes, like, your. Your stats and things like that. So it makes you.
I don't know if you can last longer. Even if it's a flinch, like, it's still. You know, it changes everything, right? Like, because if I just knock you out on one go or I knock you out on the second one after I already rocked you really hard, you know, it's just. It's. It's almost a guaranteed bonus for that fighter who knocked you out. Then also, it's a real. Where it's just like, this guy sucks, right? Well, it's like, well, if he could eat one at least, or a couple, and then you get knocked out, then it doesn't look so bad, basically. So that's. It really sucks because, honestly, you can break somebody's hand, and I. I, like. I don't know that I sprained my wrist, per se, and I. I don't want to say this because I know that they always, like, watch this kind of crap, but, like. But that's the truth. I really had, like, my. Either my bone was bruised or I had a sprained wrist after that match. I was so pissed about it. I was like, dude, why the hell did you do that?
Because he was all like, it's got to be a clean match. And no, no. Like, clubs or fouls. First thing he does is throw his thumb into my eye. Like, I had the biggest black eye after that, like, immediately after the match, too. I was like, you bet.
Yeah, I don't know. It was. I was super frustrated because I really wanted that knockout because I knew it would change my ability to get a contender match for, you know, getting a championship match. And it has. It's. It's totally stalled it because we were supposed to see Austin Turpin and. And Russell Rivera fight, like, six months ago. They were supposed to fight in December. It didn't happen, and now they're finally fighting in January, so it delays everyone's fights. Right. You know, so you're like, thanks a lot, man. So love Colton Cole. Don't get me wrong. A good example of that recently was Luke Simons against T.J. thomas, who, like, every time, Luke just did the exact same thing Colton Cole did, which was lean into it. And then they gave him the knockout, even though he, like, took a massive step into his swing. And you're like, I don't. I don't know. You know, I don't want to criticize the league too much where you're like, bro, that was insane. You let him go on the disqualification from the flinching, and then also you gave him, like, the strike with, like, the massive step. I don't know. So it's. It's wild, man. I don't know. I.
I should have gotten a knockout against Cole. That's all that I really care.
Yeah.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I genuinely. After the. I think it was the third. The third slap of him flinching, I was like, he literally just finished again. How is he saying that's fine? It was. It was so obvious.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: But they scooted over it. I liked them as well. On that. On that. On that competition fight. Michael Bishop beings commentary. I don't know if you've gone back and listened to it.
And a serial killer on the sly.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: I was thinking. Could you. I was thinking of you as kind of like the next.
What's his name, this Ted Bundy. Like, playing a Ted Bundy roll in your, like, acting career, that's something you could.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: It's like, do you want to play that role? Sure you do, but you don't. At the same time, like, this guy really is a serial killer. Yeah. No, that would be incredible. I would love that. But yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: Michael Bispin says. Says it. I think, you know, you got to run with it. Right?
[00:26:46] Speaker B: I think. Yeah. No, that was. I was a huge shout out. I was tickled pink when he said that. I. I love that guy. He truly is, like, anytime I see him, he's. He's very supportive. So as a fan and as someone who's gotten to know him a little bit, I'm. I'm honored to know. So he's cool.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: I wanted to talk films of you a little bit. Obviously, with the acting career and obviously the fascination with Superman, I'm guessing there's a bit more there in terms of, like, kind of the films that you're into, everyone's kind of got that film they could watch over and over again without getting bored. What's yours? And why does it have such a hold on you?
[00:27:22] Speaker B: Yeah, let's see. I. I think I go to the Gladiator a lot. I don't know how many times I could watch that movie, but there's just something about it, you know, I love. I love the idea of freedom. So there's a whole list of movies I could throw at you, but I'll just stick with the Gladiator, Right? Like, that's. It's. It's got this.
Everything about it shouts freedom from the beginning to the end, right? Like, here's this man who. He. Not. He believes in honor and sacrifice and things like that, but at the end of the. The core of it is he desires freedom and for other people to be free, right? So he's. He's getting out there. He doesn't fight initially, and then he begins to fight. And. And what he's fighting for seems kind of aimless at first, but then what he's really fighting for is not. Not really the freedom of himself, but his whole country, you know, And I. I don't know that. Just something about it. You just, like, root for the guy the whole time, you know, it is a. It's probably because I'm a fighter, don't get me wrong. But it's that core freedom that I really love. You know, it's like. That's why I love Superman. It's like true justice. The American way is still about freedom. Like, you know, he's going around beating up criminals at the end of the day, like, to prevent them from doing more crime. But his whole thing is about inspiring hope and freedom, right? So that's. I don't know.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. It's a great show. And I mean, I'm a bit. A bit on edge about Russell Crowe. Like, he's absolutely phenomenal in that film, but I don't think he's ever done anything. And maybe it's the role itself that's not. Let him live up to it in another role. But I don't know. He's a. I've seen a few other films of him being like, I'm a bit of a sucker for musicals. Oh, God, I can't believe I'm saying this now. And he was in Le Miserable.
[00:28:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it was pretty good. I thought it was a good movie. There are a lot of haters.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it's good. It's A good movie, but I just. Yeah. After seeing him in Gladiator, I can't see him in anything else and think. Yeah, like, you smash that. It's a real difficult one.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Okay, all right, I get you. I'll get you.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: No, that's all right. I mean, like the. A Beautiful Mind. Have you seen that movie? Like, you did?
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Really?
Oh, I'm gonna have to check that one out. I'm gonna make a note.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: A Beautiful Mind, it is a really good movie actually.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: So give me two seconds while I note that down because I will forget.
I can edit this out. Don't worry.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: No, it's worth it. It's definitely. Yeah. If you, you and your wife need like a late night movie or something like that, you're gonna be like, damn, that wasn't.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: Beautiful Mind. Awesome.
And while we're at it with the films, who's like one actor or director that always knocks it out the park for you, no matter what role or film they're in?
[00:29:50] Speaker B: Probably Anthony Hopkins, from being honest. Like, that guy always, always knocks it out of the park. So, I mean.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: And I don't feel like he, like. Because sometimes you see an actor and you think, I'm watching the same actor over and over again. But I like the role that they're playing. But it's really. I'm not going to say any names, so I feel like everyone knows who I'm talking about. Like, they're. Sometimes it's just. You really just want to see that person act, but in a different movie. So. But Anthony Hopkins is like, I don't know, he's got that theater sort of opera like, type background, I feel like, you know, and he, he really, he's lasted quite a while. Like, if you think about some actors and actresses, they sometimes they have a good 10, 20 year career. But this man is, you know, started out very young, still going, still inspiring others, but he does have that, like, much more.
He's got. He's really nailed down, like, the. The balance of like that theatrical nature.
And I mean that in the sense of being a. Someone who does theater.
But then also he's really got that film Persona nailed down too. He just does such a great job. And like, oh, gosh, there's one film. What is that called?
It's the guy with the bandana crap. He inspired Batman, you know?
Yeah, yeah, he. It's like a Spanish warrior. Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I think of. I was like, God, I can't think of the name. Yeah, I mean, what a versatile role. Right? But then you got something like, he plays in another movie. What is it called? I. I love. It's like, meet Joe Black. That's what it's called. You see him in that, like, very different roles. I don't know. He just. Anytime he plays a role, he really nails it, you know?
[00:31:36] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, his. His performance in Sights of the Lambs was like.
Yeah. Mind blowing. Yeah. Fantastic. I'm getting a vibe that you're into some of the older films rather than some of the more modern films.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: I mean, I like them both, but. Yeah.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. I was just.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'll watch anything, to be honest. I mean, I love movies. That's, you know, I. I feel like there are some actors that don't really watch movies, but I'm like, that's weird, man. Like, you're the movie, but it's like.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: It's like watching film for fights, you know?
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I'm massive. I absolutely love films.
So, yeah, having an opportunity to speak to an actor, it's like, oh, that's really cool for me.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Thanks, man.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Slightly fan. Fanboy in here.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: I get it, dude. I totally get it.
I'm the exact same way. I. I try to play it cool, like, oh, what are you doing? This situation. Yeah. Anyway, you told me.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
You clearly love heroes, villains, and everything between looking at your journey and reflecting on it, do you ever feel like you're living out your own, like, superhero origin story yourself at the moment?
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Man, I really like that question. That's good. I.
Yeah, I guess we're the own. Everyone's the hero of their own story. I guess it's something that people say, but. But, yeah, I don't know. I think, you know, I've had plenty of, like, you talk about, like, rock climbing and stuff like that. I'm sure you've had some experiences, but.
But, you know, I've. I've had some real, like, life and death situations quite often in my life. And I think.
I think that's really impacted me in the sense that, like. And I had him at a really young age, too, and I, I, you know, I saw, you know, death and injustice and things like that at a very young age. And so maybe, I guess you could say at the core of it, maybe it is what some people would consider childish. But I. I just see it as, like, you know, there's like, a core truth to, like, being kind to people or doing. Doing the right thing or being a good neighbor to other folks.
[00:33:38] Speaker A: And.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: And so I think because of those things that, yeah, sometimes maybe I just feel like I'm only going to be here for a limited amount of time. Like, why not try and live the most grandiose life and be a hero to the people that you're allowed to be? You know, like, just aim for the absolute highest you can possibly go and be the best person you could possibly be. And sometimes you have to be a person you don't want to be, like, to dance or whatever else, but, you know, it's just the nature of anything, really. But. But, yeah, I guess I don't know if that answers your question, but, yeah, I get it.
[00:34:13] Speaker A: You give me more of a Batman vibe, like, than a Superman vibe. You know what I mean? With the kind of early. Early kind of whoa. And then kind of coming into it now, I mean, minus probably billions of pounds, like, most of us, but maybe one day with the way you're going.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like, I do a little bit of Batman, too.
[00:34:32] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay. He's hidden there. Can we get the mask on? Does the mask go on?
[00:34:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Why not? You know, I don't want to steal Jensen apples Thunder. I know he wants to play Batman so bad, but, like, guy's a phenomenal guy, so I'm rooting for him, honestly. James Gunn, make a Batman. What are you doing, dude?
Yeah, I don't know. I love. I do absolutely love Batman. Right? Like injustice.
Absolutely love it, too.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: Coming soon.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: Move over.
Yeah, that's.
That's cool. I got to. I got to work with some people that do their logos, like, the Batman thing, so I. I love that. But anyway, can't go into specifics on that, but, yeah, they're cool.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: Damn it.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, that's. That's. Yeah, I'm very jealous. That's so cool. If you're ever, like, in the UK shooting, let me know, because I would love to just, like, just sit in the corner quietly. They probably don't allow that, but, yeah.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: I guess sometimes, you know, maybe. Yeah, it might depend on the films, but. But, yeah, hit me up if I'm ever out there. For sure.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: Yeah. That'd be insane. If you could ever have someone kind of play your. Your say, you get a major role as. As Batman. Should we say it? Who would you want to play your nemesis?
[00:35:56] Speaker B: Oh, that's a great question.
Damn, what a phenomenal question.
My nemesis. Wow.
Gosh. I think it would be fun to play if I had Dwayne the Rock Johnson as my nemesis. That would be so fun. I think that would be so cool.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: They could play Rhino and you could be Batman or something.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: Yeah, dude, that would be awesome.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: That'd be cool, wouldn't it?
[00:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't. I don't know that the best answer to that question, but I mean, like, honestly, he's so fun as an actor. I think he could nail being a bad guy to you very well. So. Yeah.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: And supporting Angus a little bit, because I know he works for Colossal Combat. Obviously recently you've signed as a. As a combat martial artist for them. I don't know how you. Boxing, I think, is their main thing, isn't it? What are you looking at with them at the moment? Is there anything kind of miss, I don't know, misfits? Is that kind of a thing? I don't know. Misfits are obviously, obviously the big thing that we see here.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I think that's. I mean, that's basically it is either bkfc misfits, dirty, whatever that dirty boxing.
[00:37:03] Speaker A: Is that recently came out Perry's. What?
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: I'm so mad. They didn't ask me to do that. I'm like, I. I was very involved with, like, hey, check this out. And they like, I'm glad for my bro, my buddy Dwayne Crespo from Power Stop. He actually got to. To fight. I'm sure you saw the rails. I felt very bad for him. He wasn't prepped for.
What is that other guy's name? Romero or something like that. He. Yeah, yeah, he wasn't prepped for his little jump that he did. And I was like, what is that? Can you even do that box? This is dirty. Boxy. Great. But anyway, I don't think it was prepped for that at all, but he did great, like, leading up to it. Obviously the highlights don't do justice on that, but.
But yeah, man, that's it. Like, I. I want to get.
I think getting a professional fight in or, you know, even a great exhibition match with somebody that's respectable could help maybe legitimize my. My fighting career a little bit more. Maybe help me get a better MMA professional fight that could, you know, that I could build off of and then hopefully make it to the oc. I guess that's what I'm looking at. You know, there's some. Some people don't really respect power slot very well. I'm just being honest. So it's like. Well, I. I like fighting and I would love to do Another form of fighting. And if I have to like do these weird, you know, path to get to where I would like to go, like that's it. You know, I still want to get the belt and power slap and, and, and I think power slap is badass. I'm just saying, you know, like that's kind of the thought process, finding it also.
[00:38:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean after seeing you take some of the slats that you've taken and then just kind of look at people like you've just like it was nothing. Which you quite fashionably do very well, I think. I think if I slapped you and you'd done that to me, I would be like, right, yeah, that's enough. I'm. Don't even slap me. I'm done.
That is wild.
Yeah, kudos. Because I, I just, I, I did a. So Angus got me onto crypto fight night boxing. Oh, wow. And I had no, I had no previous boxing experience and I thought this would be fun. I want to do it for the experience.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: We turned up on the Tuesday and I was like, I probably should have trained. This isn't a good idea.
And that was scary enough as it is. And we had like 16 ounce gloves on. The guy that I was fighting had like no experience. I had no experience. So relatively I was fine.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:25] Speaker A: If I went in there against someone like you and it was like, that's, yeah, that's.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: Ah, I get that. Yeah.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: You got a set of kahunis, as we say here.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Hey, dude, I mean you got in there. That's, that's it. Like, I wouldn't downplay that. You know, there's no small roles. I think anybody who gets in the ring regardless of the level is to me that massive respect, you know, because that just, it takes so much I, to get to that point alone is, it's, it's pretty hard for people to cross that threshold. So I, you know, massive kudos to you, man.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's either brave or stupid. I think stupid is probably the better way of saying it.
[00:40:01] Speaker B: Absolutely. You gotta have a little bit of that.
There are other things I could be doing.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And my, my partner wasn't too impressed, but hey, ho, that's all right, man.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: Don't worry about it. Yeah, I, I've gotten in the ring with somebody who's like way better than me and like, you know, it just, it sucks because you, you see your inadequacy. But like at the same time, I've never met anybody who doesn't respect you, like for Getting there. But, but, but, yeah, I mean, the only reason he did a lot better than me was he was like 3 inches taller and had like 7 inch reach advantage. And he was a pro boxer and I was coming from like an MMA kicking background. So I, I did fine in the beginning, but over time, it's just the plethora of punches, he had so many more significant strikes than I did. So, yeah, I was, I was pretty battered by it, I'll be honest.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: And you're, you're six two, aren't you? So this guy's like six foot five.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Yeah. How he managed to weigh in, like, because we both went in there for like 170 and the dude must have like completely dehydrated, like, I have no idea because he.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: 170?
[00:41:08] Speaker B: Yeah, he probably weighed like, he at least got Back to like 195 like the next day. And I probably jumped up to like 178, you know what I'm saying? Like, like when I was hitting him, I was like, you weigh so much more than you did yesterday.
So I kicked him to the ground multiple times. That was like the best part of the fight for me was. And I threw like a spinning back kicking at his chest and I clocked him in the head so hard he had this red line across. And I was like, yes. But yeah, no, I, I forgot his name, but I used to know it by already. He did such a badass job because I, I battered the hell out of this guy, but he just kept coming, you know, was the first time I really like gone up against somebody where I was like, there are other people like me that can just take really hard hits.
Yeah, yeah, mate.
[00:41:57] Speaker A: 117 or 65. That is wild.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Well, and at the top, because when I saw him at the W, I was like, dude, this guy's so scrawny. I'm totally going to take this guy.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: And the next day he was like.
[00:42:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That I was like, I got, I got fooled.
Yeah, I had no idea about his fighting background either. Like, no one told me it was amateur. And I'm always just ready to get into a fight. It was the last minute I was supposed to fight somebody else. They didn't even show up for the weigh in. This guy was like a replacement. And like, everyone was like, dude, you got this guy. And I don't know, I had some bad coaching mixed with the fact that I had no idea that he was like a pro boxer before that. So, like, who let this guy, the Rick with.
I did a great job. Don't worry about it. But I was. Yeah. Anyway, it's just one that sticks with you. You're like, all right, I'm gonna remember that for the rest of my life.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
Yeah. This has been wild. We've covered everything from Superman to slap induced chaos before we go. And I know we've touched on it slightly, but I was hoping we get like a one big shebang. What's next for you? And please don't say something that's going to make me super feel super lazy in comparison because your resume's insane already.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, hopefully the next thing that's up for me is a power side match. So, you know, hopefully Dana and Frank give me a call and they're like, hey man, come in. Do this match. But we'll wait to see what happens after January in the next power slap and hopefully march. We'll see that. But otherwise I'm going to be in this phenomenal film called and then you Die, which is being made by choice, Skinner. And it's got some phenomenal actors in there and I'm very blessed to get in there and do some action scenes. Very pumped about it. There's another military film I'm doing in June and it is called.
I don't think the name's dropped, actually. And I don't know that I can say what it is, but it's, it's very, it's geared towards military folks. I, I hope you guys, when I can give you more information, I'll let you guys know and, and, but be on the lookout for it. It supports anyone anywhere in the world that has ever been in the military, I promise. You can relate to this.
[00:44:13] Speaker A: So, yeah, that's super cool. I look forward to, look forward to watching. I'll be there, don't worry.
Appreciate you coming on and it's been a pleasure watching you break the rules and probably make everyone that's listening to this feel like we're wasting our lives. But anyway, no, don't Gandalf.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: I mean, go, Go for your dreams, right? Like that's, that's the point of what, you know, like I, I hope to inspire people to chase their dreams, but at the same time, if you're living your best life, live your best life, man. You know, don't.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. Until next time, folks. If you see Alan's name on a movie poster or a cyber security alert, maybe run the other way or just grab some popcorn. We'll see. Bye.
