Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Ladies and gentlemen, we're back once again with the Against Offense podcast. I'm the. I'm. I'm doing the hosting this time. Red Wolf with the boy Breezy. How we doing, man?
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Yeah, good. I like. I like this dynamic.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: It's.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: It's nice for me.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: First time, me taking the lead. And usually if it's anything like me dancing, it's gonna go off course very, very quickly, but that's what I'm here for. Well, little two steps. We'll have a few drinks first, then we'll get to dancing, you know what I mean? We'll record that in London next month.
Oh, man. But, yeah, man, you know, a bit of a mad week in the old MMA world. You know, the old social media thing blowing up a bit kind of quiet, to be honest.
[00:00:51] Speaker B: So first half of the week was very quiet. There was nothing going on. And then. I'm sure you'll bring us onto it, but Dana suddenly popped up and gave us quite a bit to talk about.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: So, yeah, he just. He just dropped the bomb on us, you know what I mean? He was like, like, oh, it's getting a bit too quiet for these boys. Here you go. Let's have. Let's just drop a nuke on him. I mean, it's just unreal, you know, all the UK guys trying to get an early night, and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna drop it in a minute. And then a minute turned into an hour, and then it turned into two hours. And then before you knew, it was 4:00 in the morning and you're still going, dana, where is it, man? Come on.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I was not staying up for that.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: I did. I did stay up for it and was very tired the next morning. But, yeah, we'll talk about those. Those bombshell announcements in a bit. But.
So last weekend we had. We had our first Apex card of the year.
Jared Kanye versus RoboCop. Yes, that was.
I mean, I was. I've got to admit, I was rooting for RoboCop, but Canyon just said, Nah, AJ, nothing but a number. Do you know what I mean?
[00:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I don't know. I.
I feel like I. I feel like I knew the way it was going to go already, and it went how I expected with the people that Cannon is fought and how long he's been doing it. Yeah, I. I wasn't surprised.
It did possibly go on for longer than I thought it was gonna. That's the only thing, maybe. Yeah, that did surprise me because, yeah, RoboCop's gas tank is terrible for that level.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And he went all out in the first, you can see. I mean he dropped Jared twice in the first and I thought it was going to be over then and he just, he just blew his load a bit too early.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: Hey, all of robocop's punches are quite loopy. Like. Yeah, punches which I feel like are quite easy. Like once Damon, Damon was I think, I think D Black. What the.
Jared. Once Jared Cannon and a had kind of got the reads in.
It was. He could tell they were coming where they were coming from and, and then robot side down.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: So yeah, it got a lot easier for him. I mean, I love Jared Kerling. Yeah. You know, I mean like I said, top guy. He's been in there with some absolute killers. I mean the guy is nearly 40 or he is 40 as well. So I love it when the old dogs come, come and show how the, the young ones how it's done. I always love that because surprisingly something that was very surprising to find out is RoboCop's younger than me. Like how that.
What the fuck?
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Try to keep that down then. Jesus.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: Wow.
The man looks 50. Remember that scene in Bad Boys? You look 30, right? RoboCop is like, you look 50. Because honestly man, he's got, he's got to be the oldest 32 year old I've ever seen.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: He's. He's huge.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Oh, he's massive. He is massive.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: He's an absolute monster. Like when I seen them two first kind of up against each other after, after the weigh ins and stuff, even at the ws, who's the height? And then, yeah, Canon ne was like this, like.
Yeah, yeah, he is a big scary man.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean I, I met him in Manchester, you know, 304, nicest guy. He really nice guy, you know, proper gentleman type. And I even, I was like, what the. He's, he's well taller than I thought he would be. Do you know what I mean?
I don't think he's like, might be 6 foot 4, 6 foot 3, something like. But he's built as well. He's, he's wide with it.
But yeah, you know the MMA Obama, that's what I used to.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: What Obama?
[00:04:57] Speaker A: I think he looks like Barack Obama.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: No, I've never made that comparison before really.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: And it's not just me. I've seen other people saying that as well.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: I might have to. Yeah, I'm gonna have to get pictures up next week later.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: But yeah, you know, I've got to admit, you know, people usually Play down the Apex cards. But that, that wasn't a bad one. It was pretty good.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: I'll tell you what else was really good about it. It was like the quickest main card ever. So we could just get to bed. I think it was like two and a half hours or two hours or something. Yeah, I was like. I was like, sweet. Like I jumped on the. The watch along and usually they go until like 3:00 or whatever. And I was like, I'm in bed. This is great.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, main card started at midnight for us and that's early. We were being like, hey, that's brilliant.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: Keep them Apex cards coming. If they're starting at that time and they're that quick.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: I mean, they are going to the Apex less and less. I've noticed. So Dana did say that was going to happen and it is happening. It is happening. But yeah, me and you spoke before about this. Like you'd love to go to an Apex card, you know, just for that experience, that intimate, you know, right there and, you know, right in front of the cage type of stuff. Do you know what I mean?
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's definitely on the bucket list. I'd like to do it. I don't know how long we're gonna go on for, but in the next two to three years, I think it'd be realistic. But yeah, imagine just a few days in Vegas, nice hot weather and the week with it with the Apex cards.
Notoriously not. They're not the best cards going. But no, you're so. You're so close and it's almost a personal interaction because you can. You can hear the coaches talking and you can. You listen to what they're saying to the fighters and.
Yeah, like you said, intimate. And I, I love the idea of just being able to experience that just. Just one time.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, if you remember when the Apex started, you know, it was because of all the. The COVID and. And. And then they had Fight island where there was no crowds. And honestly, like, some of those fights, I mean, we had. We had Dan Hooker and Dustin Poirier. One of the best fights of all time with no crowds and you could hear every punch land. It was just. It was just beautiful, beautiful violence.
[00:07:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's not something I've really experienced yet. I might get some of it at London with where I'm sat. But yeah, actually to actually.
Yeah, just hear the slaps and the cracks and the.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, when I was at. I was at 304 and I was pretty Close. And there was. There was time you could hear cracks. And I say another thing I never noticed is that, you know, when they land a takedown, it. It booms. Like, it. Really? Yeah. Like, you hear it on the telly and it just sounds like you've just tripped over your table or something. But in the arena, it's like, boom. Like hell. Do you know what I mean?
But, yeah, Vegas. Vegas is definitely on the bucket list. I mean, I'd love to do, like, you know, international Fight Week events. I'd have to sell every fucking organ in my body, though, to afford that one. That would be amazing.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Yeah, every year, because the. The buy card is usually on the same week as my birthday, so every year I say that I'm gonna go to it, and I haven't yet. But, yes, we'll. Yeah, yeah, we'll definitely do it because they're always incredible, like, absolutely incredible cards that they do in Dubai.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: Obviously went there at the end of last year, and it's such an incredible place. And to do that with watching the UFC would be so.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah, cool. 100. I mean, I've never been myself. I'm like. I'm not very traveled, I've got to admit. Like, I've been to Canada once in my whole life, and the. The most. The furthest traveling I get is to the edge of Salford and Manchester. That's about it. I'll go to Liverpool sometimes, maybe once every couple of months, and that's right back home now. Come on.
So I do need to get.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: If we get El Matador in Spain, would that would. I'll be there and I hope, yeah, too.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: I will try to make that trip, definitely. You know what I mean?
That'd be a good one.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It'd be absolutely incredible.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: I wonder who. Well. Well, that was actually one of the announcements this. This week with Dana, wasn't it, that Ilia. Ilia's vacating the featherweight title, which I thought was quite funny, considering the same week he was singing Happy Birthday to his belt. You know, like one of the cringiest things I've ever seen, but. And then abandons it at the side of the road. Like, a bit weird.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't.
I don't get it. He's a. He's an oddball, but he's incredible at the same time. It's a bit of a.
Who does he. He kind of reminds me a little bit, for me of Ian Gary, where, like, he's such an incredible fighter and you can't really deny his skill set.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Yeah, like.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: Like, ever since Sanitizer Head, I just eat.
I've just been like, there. This guy's an idiot. So, thanks, Paddy, but, yeah, just to sing Happy Birthday to your belt and treat it like it's your childhood teddy bear then, and then just relinquish it.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, even takes it and everything with candles. I mean, it was just so weird. Like, you know, and then two days later, Dana's like, yeah, he's got rid of it now. And I think, yeah, I mean, I've got. I've got.
I see why people like him, but man's knocks out two of my favorite legends of all time, and I'm not happy about it.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: Slightly salty.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: I mean, I shed tears when he did that to Max, and I still can't get over it. You know what I mean? So, I mean. I mean, I get it. I get it. You know, Dana said something about he can't. His body won't let him make the weights of featherweight now, and it's like, okay, fair enough. You know, but he also, in the same breath, said, you know, he's done all he can in the division and he's cemented his legacy, and I have to. I have to disagree with that. He hasn't done all he can in the division. Do you know what I mean?
[00:11:27] Speaker B: No, he's definitely not. I would have liked him. I would have liked to have seen him fight. Who's. Who's got a title fight? Diego Lopez, I think, because that would have been. I think, realistically that was the next fight, and I think, yeah, I think it's a fun one. I don't know. I don't know if Lopez would have beat him, but I. I would have been. I think everyone would have enjoyed the fight itself.
And I. I don't.
Does he beat Islam Makhachev?
That's the question. I think.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: I think a few people have been talking about that, you know, saying, oh, Ilya can do this, Ilya can do that. But you look at the Bryce Mitchell fight. Now, Bryce is a decent grappler, some absolute outlandish views, but he took him down a few times, you know what I mean, as well. And he seems to have. He didn't have his way with him, but he did well against him on the ground. And you. You look at someone like Makhachev, who is probably the most elite grappler we've got in the UFC now.
Be a long night for him.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And I always. I always go back to the Jai Herbert Fight. Yeah, because. Because it shows vulnerability and jai. Her. I mean, he's had a rough go in the ufc, and I think that's why he's still here, because he has fought the people that. The who's who.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: And look at where most of those are now.
But he caught him, and, yeah, fair enough. Ilya come back and absolutely folded him, but, yeah, it does show that he's vulnerable. Yeah, I just. I just don't. I. Ah, it's such a tough one. It's such a tough one because. Because we haven't really seen Ilya's grand game in the ufc, and I think that's.
That's gonna be very interesting because it's supposedly incredible. Is he supposed to be really good on the.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: It is. I mean, I. I watched his fights in cage warriors, and. And he was. He was amazing on the ground. You know what I mean? He had on my platter wings and all this kind of, like, slick. But like you say when he's been in the ufc, you've not really started seeing it because you didn't need to see it, because, like you say, he was folding people and he was putting them out cold. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it's. It's definitely Ilya versus Islam. I think will. Will have to happen, but.
And I think Dana's pretty much saying there may be someone else he may have to fight a lightweight contender before he gets that fight.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I think is fair enough.
I think another thing is he's quite small.
He's quite small facing the people he's facing already. I mean, he's stocky. Yes.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: But. But to move up to welterweight. Welterweight.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Lightweight.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: Lightweight. Sorry, what am I. Yeah.
To move up to lightweight at his height.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: Will be interesting to see how he manages it, because we saw. We kind of saw it with Alexander Taporia, his brother, earlier in the week who was fighting someone.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: A bit longer than he is. Yeah, he was very, very good at kind of waiting, getting the reads and then. And then coming in and just. And. And the powers.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: Scary people. Man, that was. That was impressive.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
So I. I expect we've seen a. Probably a little bit of a glimpse into how Ilya will fight lightweight.
[00:14:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I think I agree with that.
And like you say, I mean, it looks like his brother's staying at featherweight, so, I mean, it opens the door. So I'll go, sorry, his brother's a bantam way in it.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: It's his big, but he's small, he's lighter. Than him.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: He's taught. Yeah, he's tiny. He was literally a.
I mean, I wouldn't tell him that to his face.
I think he'd kill me.
[00:15:14] Speaker A: But there's a few midgets. I would say that to their face, but that's not one of them. Do you know what I mean?
[00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm, I'm very excited to see. See how, how they both do going forwards.
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, with. With really a moving, a lightweight, it's brought, it's brought Volk back into the title contention. You know, I say we've got vault versus Lopez now.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Great fight. I love that fight.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: Great.
[00:15:42] Speaker B: I, I think, I think vocal.
I hesitate to say it because I, I, I think initially, Volkwell will now be champ for a few years.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: The only thing that makes me question that I've lost it. I lost it. 2 secs.
So we can edit this bit out.
I want to see what happens with Pitbull.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that was another. That was another bombshell announcement that, you know, in the week was kind of teased, and then other people were saying it was. And then other people were copying and pasting and putting their bit on, and then people were retracting statements, and it was like Ed Spring type. You know what I mean? And then Dana just goes, oh, yeah, yeah, we have got him. I mean, there's a lot of stuff.
A lot of stuff behind the scenes going on. Apparently, it wasn't a done deal. It was something that people was thinking about or talking talks with. And then couple of days before the announcement, it gets signed. But, yeah, that's, that's, that's a big shakeup, you know, and to come in and fight someone like Y. Rodriguez as well, who's in the top five, the featherweights.
Yeah. Gonna be very interesting, that one. Because if he wins that, you've got a new contender from a, From a totally different organization coming in. Do you know what I mean?
[00:17:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And we've always had that question, like, promotion versus promotion, kind of. Who.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: And, and the UFC have done very well, Very, very well out of signing Bellator fighters.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Michael Chandler, top, top name in the ufc. Incredibly entertaining in the fights. I'm not massive on him outside of it, but hey, yeah. Mvp.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: One of my favorite fighters. You know, even in Bellator, if he was on the card, I was cheering that. Do you know what I mean?
[00:17:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
So another one enters the fray, and let's see. Let's see where he ends up, because, yeah, it's Good to see this.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: It's exciting. It's really exciting. Like you say. Just going back to what you said about mvp, man, I've wanted him in the UFC for years. You know, like, I always used to dream about what would it. What would him and Stephen Thompson be like, you know, what would he be like against someone like, you know, in the top five rankings of the ufc? And then when we got him, I mean, He's. He's. He's 37 now, and a lot of people say, oh, we've got him too late, and this and the other, but I don't think so, not when he's. He's taking zeros from Shadow Bullet and he's still putting on entertaining fights, you know what I mean?
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think it's the perfect time for the featherweight division because with Ilya leaving. Although. Yes. Ilya could have started to go through the rounds, kind of like what Volk had already done.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: And we. And it probably would have been similar where Ilya was starching everybody votes didn't really start everybody, but. But you know what I mean?
Yeah. Having Pitbull come into this, I think just adds a completely new dynamic, because everyone else is kind of. Until you get to Arnold Allen, who obviously had a. Had a rough fight against Max Holloway. Yeah, he could. Unless he. Unless they give him a viable other option, it's going to be hard for him to progress past Max.
The only person, really, when I look at it, who I think is like a new, fresh person, obviously Diego Lopez, he's got his fight. We'll see how that goes. Beyond that is Laro Murphy.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the wrong, you know, I mean, Miracle from Manchester, my money boy, he's got his main event against Josh Emmett. You know, he's been calling for that fight for such a lot, and that is a mega fight. You know what I mean? Like, that's going to be his toughest test. He's even said that. He said it's going to be his toughest test, and he's ready for it. And scary fight, scary fight.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: It's one of them fights that makes me.
[00:19:46] Speaker A: I like.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: I will have no nails left by the end of it. Yeah, I might have no fingers either. I might have gone the whole way down.
[00:19:54] Speaker A: Joy reminds me of. This was like when Tom Aspinall fought Pavlovich. I was exactly like that. I was like, oh, I was in it all week. Do you know what I mean? But look how that one turned out. Do you know what I mean?
[00:20:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
The thing with Josh EMT is I. So I had Cody Gibson on the podcast when I spoke to him, he said that his ground game is absolutely incredible. Like Josh incredible wrestler but because he's got this God given gift of just being able to knock everyone the out like he's that powerful. He's not really, he's not really had to show it.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: And that scares the hell out of me the fact that a man can be like, can flatline people at that weight class like he does.
[00:20:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: It's always a threat for the, for the full 15 minutes it's gonna be a threat.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. 100. I mean man nearly killed Bryce Mitchell. Like I've never seen. You know, let's see man, the man, the guy was shaking, you know, I mean, I mean that killed off the last of his brain cells I think. I mean because Bryce has not been the same since. Do you know what I mean? And then that clip came back around a couple of weeks ago because of certain recent comments that were made and Josh Emmett came back with like why is my clip resurfacing again? Like what have I done? Why is everybody thank.
But yeah, he's, he's power in those arms and he, and he, he just, he just looks like. He, he looks scary. You know, I mean the shaved at the beard and all that but my goodness man, he's, he's. He's a lethal weapon. Do you know what I mean?
[00:21:30] Speaker B: Yeah, he, he's got the body of a man who looks like he's been conditioned be like in hell. Yeah, it's all like kind of. He know what I mean?
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Like.
[00:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. What he.
If I saw him in the street in like wearing normal clothes, you probably wouldn't think that much of him. I mean he still looks a little bit scary but as soon as he took his in a street fight. Jesus Christ. I don't think I could run like.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: No, I'm good man. I'm good. You know, I mean one of them in the bars, you know, it's one of them you spill me drink your dickhead and I come on there and then he rips it. Now you know what? I'll. I'll buy you a pint back. It was, it was me. That was my fault. My fault.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: Yeah, here's my background.
[00:22:13] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean the wrong's like you know, he's, he's, he's, he's ripped a as well. You know, he really takes his training like serious. I mean he's been in Thailand for the past. I think I'M gonna say a month, do you know what I mean?
And I think I'm, I'm, I, you know, biased. I know, but I do think the wrong can get it done and I think it probably will. He'll go to a decision with it, you know what I mean? I think he's going to be very slick in and out. He's going to have to avoid that right hand like, like it's the plague, do you know what I mean?
But yeah, very interesting fight. Very interesting. And like you say, could shake up, shake up the featherweights even more. Do you know what I mean?
[00:22:55] Speaker B: Yeah. The one thing I think most UK MMA fighters have going for them, Butcher kind of ascending at the moment is technically they're very, very, very, very good.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:05] Speaker B: And I think that's one thing with Laron Murphy where he will have a technique to kind of stay away from that power or he'll have the knowledge to kind of understand this is where I need to be in the fight to stop myself from being in the danger zone.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: And, and we've seen that a few times in his, in his previous fights. And I, I think that's the one thing which makes me go like this guy is to really hang up there.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: I mean, you look at the last fight against Barbosa, I mean, I was, I was slightly worried about that, do you know what I mean? Because Barbosa is one of my favorite, you know, strikers, you know, from way back in the day. Second heads off and sending them into the crowd and that.
But lerong just, you know, he batted him, there's no two ways about it. The wrong batted him and he was in and out with the takedowns and he looked great. Lerone looked absolutely phenomenal with it. And again, that was another main event. So he's, he's getting his five rounds experiences in, so he's, he's looking to hide, head to the top, do you know what I mean? Plus, he's undefeated as well.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's, you know what, it's one of them ones where I think it could happen one day that when they were, when him and Nathaniel Wood were kicking off, I think two very technical fighters from the uk. I'd love to see that match up.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Do what pisses me off. I love both them guys.
I'm like, stop beefing. Come on, boys.
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, again, Nathaniel Wood, you know, massive fight coming up for him in, in London, you know, Morgan Cherie, is it? Yeah.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Ex Cage warriors champ as well.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And Great fight. I mean, we spoke about on the last episode and I think, you know, we could talk about London until the cows come on. We're very excited for that card. All those.
Yeah, yeah. 30 days, man. I've still not got it all sorted for it, man. I don't, I don't know. I'm getting there. They don't know. You know, looking at the old cell, right, I need to book that. I'm very last minute with my kind of stuff. But we'll get there, we'll get there. Although that's a. That card's been changed a little bit as well, thanks to Uncle Dana.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a. Yeah, if, if it wasn't UK fighters and I wasn't from the uk, I'd look at that card and go, I'll miss that one. It's.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: Hey, don't say I'm promoting this to the Americans. I'm saying, look, no, watch it. Come on now. You know what I mean? But, yeah, I mean, we are. When we, when you, when we get announced, Leon Edwards versus jdm, man, I was buzzing. I was just like, you filthy dirty animal. That is nice. Do you know what I mean?
[00:25:53] Speaker B: Slap that bald head, you sexy.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Honestly, mate, Honestly, I was just like, oh, you, you know what you've done with that, you filthy tat. You know what I mean?
And then, you know, we get the announcement this week that JDM's getting a title shot against Bilal. Great fight. And we're getting Leon versus Sean Brady, which, you know, still a good fight. But when you're being given, when you're being told that I'm going to take you to a five star Michelin restaurant for a steak and then you get there and you go in at a kfc, you're kind of a bit. But it, aren't you? I mean, KFC is good, you love it. But you wanted, you wanted the night, you wanted the steak, you know what I mean?
But yeah, it's a bit of a mad one.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think, I think that main event was like a really good fight night main event, which is why so many people probably rush to buy tickets. Yeah, yeah. If you're more of a hardcore UK MMA fan, then seeing the likes of like the Faniel, Woods, Jordan, all of them, that, yeah, that's still good, isn't it? Like, we want to see how they. Yeah, and they're both, they're all great fighters, but for a more casual audience. The JDM fight, who's. Who was. I don't know, he was Top five, I think. Was he third or something?
[00:27:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: Fourth, I think versus Laro Murphy is like, for a casual, a incredible fight. Because, because, you know, they're probably. Unless one of them's severely suffering on the feet, they're not going to wrestle each other.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: They are going to stand and they're going to hit that pocket hard.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's what everyone was saying. Every, even, like every American I spoke to, every. Every ufc, Big MMA fans were saying, this is going to be a war, a striking war. Like, these guys are going to go hell for leather. Stand and bang, no takedowns, just pure, you know, kickboxing. Do you know what I mean?
And everyone was excited for it. I mean, with Brady, I think, like you say, it's again, Leon's fighting another wrestler. Do you know what I mean? And I'm sure it'd be a good fight, but I would have much preferred to see Leon, you know, standing with someone than defending takedowns for the 25 minutes, you know what I mean?
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And, and, but if we forget about, if we, if we forget about Shavkat for a minute, because obviously he's. We all thought he was next.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: And he, he probably. And he will be the next one, probably.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: If, if, if Lerone had beaten jdm, then that would have been the Rone's answer to getting back for a title fight.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: Yeah. 100. Oh, 100. Yeah, that was what I thought.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: We've now got a situation where we've. We've made a main event for a pay per view with Bilal and jdm, where Bilal is just going to wrestle a bloke for 25 minutes and win a decision.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:54] Speaker B: And we've probably also made a fight night in London, which is probably going to be a guy wrestling Laro Murphy, leon Edwards, for 15 minutes to a decision.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Are you just kind of a bit like, oh, man. Do you know what I mean? I mean, it's just, don't get me wrong, like, we're hardcore. Yeah. We'll sit there and we'll still lap it up, Jeremy, and we'll love every second of it, I'm sure. But, you know, it's just. It just wasn't what we were, what we wanted. I mean, don't get me wrong, there's still a few, like, fighters that could have been on the London card that were open for, you know, like Arnold Allen, but he's going through some major surgery at the minute. You know, thanks for the graphic videos that he put you Know, that was beautiful. I mean, watching that while having your brekkie is spot on, but.
[00:29:42] Speaker B: That'S your fault.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: For what?
[00:29:43] Speaker B: Watching it while having breakfast.
[00:29:45] Speaker A: You know me. It did say it. Let's go.
But, you know, but like, you say it still starts with, like, UK talent. You know what I mean? We've got. You got Mick parking on there. Like I say. We spoke about.
Spoke about before, you know, you got Mick parking against Tybora. That's gonna be. That. That's gonna be a real good one. And that's probably, you know, if Mick wins that, he's in the top eight. Do you know what I mean?
So, yeah, I mean, London's still good.
[00:30:18] Speaker B: But yeah, depending on how long the whole Jon Jones thing takes. Do we see Mick Parkin vs. Tom Aspinall?
[00:30:26] Speaker A: I thought about it, you know, I mean, could you imagine? I reckon them two will do it because we have a little bit of a thing in the UFC now, don't we, where no one wants to fight their mate, you know, like, we have Sterling and Murab, you know, and it's like. And then you have Murab saying about Alexander Toporia, like, oh, no, he won't fight him. It. Yeah, get Mick and some in there. Do you know what I mean?
You see what I said? It'll be so good. Because I've watched them train together and they look. It looks good fighting, you know what I mean? They both seem to read each other very well.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Just the whole dynamic behind that because they both trained at the same gym and they're obviously been trading partners for a while. Like, that's an interesting one. One.
[00:31:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Could you imagine that? If they do that, though, that has to be in Manchester. They have to come back to Manchester for that one. You know what I mean?
[00:31:17] Speaker B: I hope not. But yeah.
[00:31:22] Speaker A: Come on, F. You know, you love Manchester. You know what I mean?
[00:31:26] Speaker B: Ever since we pulled into that.
Oh, what was it called? With. With.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: With.
Yeah.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: Pissing in a bin. I was like, why am I here?
[00:31:35] Speaker A: The standard.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: But, but, but the city center itself was. Was quite nice sign. I had a good night out then.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was good.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it was good.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: But yeah, man. I mean, speaking of UK fighters as well, actually, just going back to what we're saying, you know. So Montreal315 stole our main event and Bilal put out a very funny tweet, you know, about stealing Leon's belt and stole his opponent.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: It winds me up that Leo. That Bilal could be funny, man.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: I think I've said something similar To. I've put it in his tweet. Stop being funny, Bilal. It's not, it's not good. You know what I mean? Don't make me laugh.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: The, the, the, the one thing that I loved was at his 304 at the press conference where did that thing for the Palestinian kid. That thing really was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't be funny, man. Be, be, you know, be soft. Don't be funny because, yeah, I don't want to get on the bandwagon after the little thing and I might.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: He's got better. I'll tell you what, I'll give him his due, right? He has got a hell of a lot better at trash talking. Do you know what I mean?
[00:32:54] Speaker B: Do you think it's him, though? Do you think it's him? Or do you think that at some point they get some sort of like, PR team to help them?
[00:33:01] Speaker A: I think, I think it's probably a bit both, to be honest, Jeremy. Like, we've seen a few fighters where they've all of a sudden popped up out of nowhere and they've got a, you know, big social media skit thing and, you know, the, the making funny videos and stuff. And it's like, like, I think like, like Merab, for example, all of a sudden came out with these funny videos of dressing up as a doctor and doing the, you know, the list and all that, and it's just mental. So I think they make. There probably is a bit of element of, you look, you gotta, you gotta promote yourself a bit more. And this is how we do it. You know what I mean?
[00:33:40] Speaker B: It's just, it's suspicious to me because I don't know how you go from I've got hands like Canelo to 108 and Neon Edwards on Twitter.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: I just.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: Where's that come from? You know what I mean?
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Someone's whispered in his ear. Do you know what I mean? I mean, don't be wrong. You. I, I joking. I take the piss, you know, B's a nice guy, you know, and like, you say the thing that he did with Palestinian kids, it was beautiful, man, you know, but, yeah, and his, his dad.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Yes to. For. It must have been over an hour.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Just.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: Lobby at Manchester, at the hotel. And it was, he was just, he was just like. It was such a weird dynamic that this guy was just stood in the lobby talking to me and some of the other guys that were there.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: I was there.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. And if, if he hadn't have told me.
Yeah, I wouldn't have known. Like, he just seemed like a fan almost. It was. So.
[00:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:33] Speaker B: And then Bilal come in for his. For his weigh in, and Bilal was like, straight over to him saying, like, how are you doing? I was like, he actually is his dad. He's not chatting, this guy.
[00:34:45] Speaker A: Yeah, but, yeah, and fair play to him as well, because he's like. He even said something to me, something about, like, I'm sure you're rooting for Leon. I was like, yeah, you know, home, hometown, home country. And he's like, yeah, good luck. And we shook hands. You know, you. You try and do that on MMA Twitter and say something about your face. Yeah, I'm rooting for you. And then all of a sudden, you've got all these doctor kids, you know, telling you he's washed and all that. And. And, you know, me and Bilal's dad, we shook hands, and even after the fight, you know, Bilal fans in the crowd, we shook hands and we said, you know, great fight. You know, Bilal looked phenomenal.
And I was just like, through gritted.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: Teeth, do you know, swallowing that bitter pill.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: 100, mate. 100. But, yeah, so Montreal, 315. They've got one hell of a card. So fair play. You've got a. You've got a good main and co main, because you've got the coal main. Shevchenko versus Manon, which I. I love it when Shevchenko fights, honestly.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And I feel like there's some disrespect towards Shanka this time. There's loads of people just writing her off against for. And I just. I just don't.
I. I get. She lost. She lost her Grasso, but. Yeah, but then starts, I think, yeah.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: She came back and won. Know what I mean? Decisively. There was no, like, you know, people say, oh, robberies there. Probably a few. But that wasn't no robbery. That was. That was Shevchenko knowing exactly what she needed to do to win there. Do you know what I mean?
[00:36:14] Speaker B: And for Row, I. I get why people say that she's such a threat, because her stand up, like, her kickboxing is unbelievable for, you know, But I just. I don't think if. If Shef Shanko takes her down, which I think she will, I just don't see her being able to cope with it.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: No. Especially when she gets into that crucifix position.
It's.
She. When she gets, like, elbows going and she's just raining down, it's just kind.
Honestly, mate, honestly, it's unreal and it's Murderous. You know what I mean? I mean, she's had so many people in that position, and she's. She's finished people in that position. This is getting a slightly more innuendo.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
And it's weird. It's a weird one for me because we don't see the crucifix too often. But she's such a specialist.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: Yeah. It's a go to. Do you know what I mean? And I've seen. I've seen people say. I mean, I'm not saying has no chance. You know, it's mma. Everybody has a chance.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
Rose fluked a head kick against Zhang Weili, didn't she? And we didn't. We didn't think that. And. And now time has passed and it's a bit like, okay, maybe. I think. I think now maybe it was possibly a fluke and. But man. And Faro is more than capable of doing a Holly Holm.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Eleven from Stranger Things.
[00:37:49] Speaker A: You know, we're gonna lift her up, but. Yeah, exactly. Do you know what I mean? I mean, great fight. And I. I will start, mate.
Tiny little bit gutted that we've got to wait a little bit longer now for Shevchenko versus Zhang Whaley, because I honestly think that is the best female MMA fight you could put on right now. And. And I don't usually agree with people like, going for. For. For. For second belts, but wh.
She's. She's flew through that division. You know what I mean? There's not many people left for her.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: How would you do it, though? How would you do it? Because. Because I think wh's tiny. Yeah, she's strong, don't get me wrong. But would you have Valentine, would Valentina come down? I don't think she would. So you have to come out.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: Zang has to go up to flyweight. I think it's the only way that it's going to be able to happen. I think. I think Val.
I think she knows it's a risk to cut the weight. Whereas for wh. It's not as risky to put the weight on.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
So I think Weili goes up to flyweight. Do you know what I mean? And challenges Shevchenko. If so, if Shevchenko beats Man on. That's gotta be the next fight to make. Like I'd sell my kidney for it.
Well, better than selling the other thing.
[00:39:18] Speaker B: I'll buy it. No.
Yeah. I feel like the women's division really needs something. Something. Something juicy, something new. I know. I know that Bantamweight should pick up Rayla Harrison, kind of.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: But the, the flyweight, the fly is probably the most interesting one at the moment, I would say. Straw weights, I don't know. Do they make an atom weight division?
[00:39:52] Speaker A: I wouldn't mind it. I. I wouldn't mind if they did, but then I think. I think they'd have to go and look for some new fighters for that division, because I don't think there's going to be a lot of female fighters that will cut to atom weight, you know what I mean?
[00:40:06] Speaker B: But I think there's a lot of fighters that are probably fighting at straw weight, which could be a.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: It could. Yeah, they could probably drop a couple. You know what I mean?
[00:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. It's an odd one because I. Yeah, they. I don't know what it is with the women's division, maybe. I mean, I get it, because culturally, women aren't MMA fighters. You know what I mean?
[00:40:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we got. I mean, look at. Look, back in the day, though, there was one time when Dana was asked, when we see him, women in the ufc, he's like, never. I. Now look, you know what I mean? He got the Ronda Rousey in, he got Misha Tate, and it blew up. You know, I think it's thanks to them. I think they're the pioneers of the women's MMA is Rhonda Katagano, we should say. You know, I mean, they. They pioneered it.
I'll tell you what, though, there is one person who I would love to see in the UFC very, very soon.
Female fighter, my neck of the woods.
[00:41:10] Speaker B: Oh, the woman mma, best kept secret.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: That's the one man everyone with.
[00:41:17] Speaker B: With highlights. And. And Dana still doesn't know who she is.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: What's he doing? Dakota Dechiva, or Decheva, however you say the last name, right? It doesn't matter. I just call her Dakota, right? Because she's. And she's from Manchester and she is. She doesn't believe in decisions, right? She goes in there and just absolutely wellies people and puts them out. Do you know what I mean? Like, she's one of the slickest kickboxers I've ever seen, man or woman. Do you know what I mean? And I don't know what's going on. Why Dana isn't looking at her and licking his lips. Because I know, I know I do. Bad on the bone.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It is an odd one, especially with, like, at the moment, you've got probably.
I wouldn't want to So I wouldn't put Juliana Pena in the category. But you've got Valentina Shevchenko, who's been quite dominant of her division for a very long time. You've got Zhang Weili, who potentially can now be quite dominant for a long time. Amanda Nunes is retired. We've got Kayla Harrison coming up. So that's probably going to be a bit of a stalemate. So we're going to have three champions for three divisions who probably are going to be where they are for a long time. Shake it up a bit, man.
[00:42:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you need some. You need some. You need some new inject. You need something new in there. I mean, look what they did with the flyweights. Yeah, the. You've got Pan soldier, who's. Who's the champion, and he's beating people left, right and center. Should have been fighting Makayev, but.
So then they bring in. They're bringing Asakura from. From another division, another organization, because. To shake things up, do you know what I mean? And inject someone new in there. But now we're getting to the point in that division, in the men's flyways, where it's like, well, who's next? I mean, you've got Kaikara, France, maybe.
And then you've got people talking about, should DJ come back? DJs back. God bless him. I absolutely would love him to, but.
[00:43:17] Speaker B: He'S not going to Henry Sao to come and just tarnish his lips.
[00:43:23] Speaker A: No, but for me, obviously, I say you need. You need Muhammad Makaya back. You know, I. I'm really promoting these Mancunian fighters right now, and I am being shameless with it. I know.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: I couldn't tell, mate. I couldn't tell.
Parking Tom Aspinall.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: But we're taking over. The monks are finally taking over.
It's been a while. You know what I mean?
[00:43:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, no, let's. No, yeah, you're 100, right? Like, I. I don't see why they're not looking at her and going like, we really need her to touch, kind of add a bit. And at the moment, they're signing all the. The kind of other fighters from other divisions. I know it's slightly different, the context of it all, but. Yeah, she's right there, Dana. You can. You can see her. Just sign her. Just send her a contract. I'm sure she'll sign it if the money's good enough, depending who you kind of place in those fights. You don't need a treasure map, mate. You need a working email address. Just.
[00:44:30] Speaker A: That's It. That's it.
And bring it in. Bring it. I mean, we've had, we even had, you know, this weekend we had Austin van der. For Mr. Paige Van Zank joined the UFC just like that. And it's like, whoa, when did that happen? Do you know what I mean? It's like, I mean, yeah, there's no two ways about it. Dakota, bring her in. Give her a top eight, top five. There's so many. So many juicy fights for her in that division.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a tough one for me because I feel like. I feel like you've got two options. I, I feel like you, you either put her in, like 15 to 10 and you build her up because you. Which, let's be honest, right, she's probably going to knock a few of them out, I think, anyway.
[00:45:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:45:09] Speaker B: And you start to build her stock and people go, oh, actually, I see why people were like, she needs to be in the ufc. Or I think you throw her in there with a former champ and possibly she. Them too.
[00:45:22] Speaker A: I was thinking a great. Well, two great fights for her would be Jessica Andrade or Rose number.
You just remembered that picture, didn't you?
[00:45:36] Speaker B: You remember Steve from that, Man, Honestly, I've got. I've got an autographed card and like, it's like buried at the bottom of the drawer just because.
Oh, God. If anyone wants it 20p, it's yours.
[00:45:54] Speaker A: I'll put the feelers out, mate.
Well, yeah, but them too. You know, Dakota versus Rose or Dakota versus Andraj. You know, two former champs and she could make a statement.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: I like that. I like the Rose fight, to be fair. I like that one.
[00:46:16] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. I just, Just get in there. But knowing, knowing Dana White, it'll probably try and get Amanda Nunes out of retirement for something stupid, even though she retired, too.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: I think, I think if Kayla becomes champ, I think Nunes comes back.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: Well, that, that was my prediction when we did our chat predictions at the start of the year. That's what I said. I said, I think Kayla gets the bell towards the end of this year, Amanda Nunes comes back and fights her and I think Amanda beats her. And. Yeah, that's an interesting one.
[00:46:44] Speaker A: Yeah. But, yeah, I, I totally agreed with your. Your predictions this year of. About who's champ by the end of 25, and we agreed on pretty much everything, if I'm honest.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: So, I mean, the most, the most out there one was Jack Della Madeleine and I, I. If that one, if that one pulls off, then that'd be great.
[00:47:03] Speaker A: But we're so early in the year.
[00:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah, the thing is though, Shavkat's like looming, so if, if JDM manages to beat Bilal, it's like probably by the end of the year, it's gonna be Shaft Cat. But I didn't want to be one of them boring bastards. Everyone, I think one place is Shaft cats.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Everyone. Yeah, everyone's been blowing, you know, smoke up Shaft cats ass and they do, you know what I mean? But let's mix it up a little bit.
But yeah, honestly, man, some, some, some good, some good exciting fights coming up. I mean, one of them I'm very excited about, which we finally got confirmed because I've, it's been weighing on my shoulders for about two months is Paddy the Baddie versus Michael Chandler.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: It's a fun one.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: What a fight. What a naughty fight that is. Do you know what I mean? I've got to give a big shout out to, you know, Steve Simpson on, on Twitter. Him and Paddy are like, you know, uncle and nephew at this point. They absolutely just talk every day. Do you know what I mean? Swap pictures of kids and everything. And me, me, him and, and Paddy, you know, chatting and, and we was like, we've known for a while and it's like, what's going on? Why is this still not being announced? You know what I mean? And you've got so many people making fake fights up old Chan was fighting arm and, oh, Paddy's gonna fight Gamro, you know, I mean, it's like he's not so.
But yeah, you know, big shout outs to Steve Simpson.
That is such an, you know, an interesting fight and could propel Paddy right up into the top 10 there.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: It, it could, but it shows you the curse of trying to hang on to a Conor McGregor fight. Right? You go from fighting the Conor McGregor to fighting Paddy P. That's when you talk about the money involved. It's a, it's a little bit. But Py for Paddy, it's an incredible matchup and it's such a fun one for the fans as well. I, yeah, I wouldn't like to call it, I really wouldn't. Oh, it's another one where I'm gonna have no fingers left because I've been through my nails and everything.
[00:49:04] Speaker A: I, I, I'm, I'm not saying that it's not, it's going to be easy, but I genuinely think Paddy Paddock and sub him. I do really think that, you know, I think Paddy, Paddy, Paddy gets underrated or underestimated every time he steps in the cage and every time he proves him wrong. Do you know what I mean?
[00:49:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I agree. But he's starting to hit the area of the division where experience and Chandler's channel's been up there for a long time. And there's a reason for that.
[00:49:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: And that. I think that's what gives me question marks like Chandler has got the power, he's got the cardio.
I do think. I mean, he got submitted by Poria, so.
[00:49:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So he's not immune.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I do think that Paddy could submit him, but I just. Yeah, I do get a bit nervous.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: Don't. His nerves there. His nerves. I know, I know. Paddy himself knows it. You know, it's a. It's a. It's a dangerous fight, but one that if he comes out and. And proves himself and, And. And finishes Chandler, you know, he's. He's moving well up into the right direction. Now that we've got Ilia moving to lightweight, we might see Paddy. Paddy versus hand sanitizer boy. Do you know what I mean? It might actually happen.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: That would be great. Imagine that would be so good.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: It might happen.
[00:50:33] Speaker B: The press conference for that would be brilliant.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: The press conference will sell more tickets than the event brings.
[00:50:43] Speaker B: A bottle of hand sanitizer. I'll be happy.
[00:50:45] Speaker A: It's it right there. Do you know what I mean? Ready?
But, yeah, that's. That's a great fight. And in Miami as well. I mean, I was hoping. I was really hoping we'd see Paddy in London. I mean, that's what I think. One of the original fights that were being talked about was Paddy versus Marcano.
Yeah, London, but fair play.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think we've been spoiled with Paddy Pimlet in the uk, I hope. Yeah, I hope he. Yeah. I just hope he can really build on the US kind of stock and. And run with it, because I just. I can imagine a bunch of American Yanks with, like, a blonde wig on going over in the uk. It'd be so good, wouldn't it?
[00:51:27] Speaker A: I think he's got fans over there. I genuinely didn't, like, say Steve Simpson. He's in Canada, mate. And he's. He's like, you know, the biggest Paddy fan, you know, and supporter in the world. And he's Canadian with the Canadian flag he's got in Montreal. You know what I mean? With the Paddy. The baddie T shirts on like that. So he's. Yeah, I think. I think Patty's. I think Paddy's grown on a lot of people. I think, you know, they kind of saw him as the, the loud mouth Scouser and, you know, chatting, but I think when he came out and he started talking about men's mental health, started talking about Andy's man club and stuff like that, and then people really started to, to take note and, yeah, you know, controversial win decisions over Jared Gordon, but then after that, just started finishing people and not leaving it to the judges. Do you know what I mean? So, yeah, I think he's, he's grown into a very favorite.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: You know, he probably had the best, most entertaining fight of 304.
[00:52:33] Speaker A: Oh, it's beautiful. Yeah.
[00:52:35] Speaker B: And if you, if you can perform like that on a card like that, then it's gonna make like the, the big people that UFC go, this guy. And I think that's probably why he's got the Chandler fight.
[00:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: Because he generated the hype and then he turned up in the night and he, and he, he finished Bobby Green.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Well, King Green.
[00:53:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
And if he does beat China, like you said, he has got some proper legacy fights lined up for him then. Yeah, if I was him, I just dance around the top eight and just have some fun.
[00:53:14] Speaker A: Yeah. See, I think, I mean, he's come out, you know, I think he was on one of his vlogs. Like his road to the title is, you know, fight, fight Chandler. He didn't say Chandler's name at the time, but basically, fight Chandler. Fight someone in the top five, fight for the belt. Do you know what I mean? And I think he does want the belt. I think he does want the belt, you know, and, and it could be.
This is, this is the thing with mma. Nothing's impossible. Do you know what I mean? But it's either, well, it depends who's got the belt at the time as well, don't it? If it could be Islam, could be.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: Earlier if, if, if you, if you asked me now, as someone that's not like a massive Paddy fan, I like him. I think he's super entertaining.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: And I think his ground game is absolutely phenomenal. But if you ask me now, does he beat Islam or Ilya? I don't think he does.
I think, I think there is vulnerability there which is susceptible to, and the people at the top will expose it.
But if he beats Chandler, he's gonna have one hell of a time on what a, what a life to have lived.
[00:54:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:54:21] Speaker B: Forget the rest of it. You could be the biggest journeyman going when you've got money in the bank. You've got a great family.
[00:54:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:28] Speaker B: At the end of the day. I know, I know personally, like, that gold belt is probably the thing for him.
[00:54:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, mate.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: Charles Oliveira, Justin Gaethje, Dustin Porier. I mean, some of these are probably going to retire soon, we think. Yeah. Max Holloway, like, Dan. Dan Hooker and any of them. And, oh, what?
It gets me giddy.
[00:54:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Thinking about it, mate.
[00:54:59] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, yeah, if we beat Chandler, that's what we are looking at, and that's what I'm saying.
[00:55:04] Speaker A: I mean, if he, if he can get through. If he can get through Michael Chandler, like I say, it's a killer's row of names of, of, of. Of legends of, of knockout and submission artists. And it's like you're looking up at that and going out. You know what I mean? And one thing I'll give Paddy, you know, a lot of people call it arrogance and that, but he believes in himself. He really believes, because he's. He's even said, I wouldn't be doing it if I wasn't. Why would you. Why would you want to fight if you don't believe you can win? Do you know what I mean? You don't believe you're the best in the world, and I love that. I don't like him. He goes into cockiness, but I don't think he does. You know, it doesn't really get into that cockiness, superior level. Do you know what I mean?
But, yeah, it's. It's gonna be interesting next couple of months.
[00:55:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he's. He's a funny guy, Paddy. I think he's. I think he's. I think he's fantastic. And, yeah, I'm very excited to see what happens. It's gonna be, it's gonna be fun.
[00:56:01] Speaker A: That's not even that far away. That's UFC 340, I think. April.
Can't remember the exact date, so. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that, that day in the white announcement. I mean that. We haven't even gone through all of them. Do you know what I mean? There was. Who else was? It was. There was Carlos Process versus Jack Neal. You know, Kraft says he's looking phenomenal, you know, fighter of the year last year for me.
Such a dangerous guy. Loves drinking, loves smoking. Do you know what I mean? He's someone that is someone that most average MMA fans can relate to. It's like, well, if he can do it. Do you know what I mean?
[00:56:41] Speaker B: I don't know if he will be able to do it, but probably Not.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: Probably not.
[00:56:45] Speaker B: But it's good to just go, well, it.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: You know, if he can drink and smoke and knock people out, then so can I.
It was just. Yeah, there was just so many. So many, like, great fights announced that it was so hard to keep up. And I don't know if. I don't know if I like it when he does that. You know, the big cluster bomb of announcements. I. I'd much rather prefer dribs and drabs, you know, to digest it than. Than have it all. All blow up, you know, given to us at once.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: I don't know. I think it's. I think it's a marketing thing more than anything because you've got. You've got. If you do it all at once, you've got multiple people which have got multiple pools of fans, and they all start talking.
[00:57:29] Speaker A: That's a very good point, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: You get a lot of hype around cards specifically. So you've got like two or three of those on a card. People go, oh, make three. One four. Three one five. Three one five. Jesus Christ. Like, you know what I mean?
[00:57:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, funnily enough, I think the day before the Dana announcement, they put the tickets up for 314, and everyone was kind of saying, like, you haven't even told what the main event is or the co. Main. Like, well, you want us to buy tickets? Well, yeah. Right. Well, what's going on? Well, you've got Vulcan versus Lopez and you've got Paddy versus Chandler. Yeah, take my manga. Do you know, he was very clever with it. You know what I mean? Businessman. D. Uncle Dana.
You know, you can say whatever you want about him, but the guy's a businessman. He knows how to do it.
[00:58:20] Speaker B: I'd love to one day just grab him. Just give him a good old nuggy.
[00:58:23] Speaker A: Like a slap on the b.
[00:58:27] Speaker B: You know, something about him.
[00:58:31] Speaker A: Yeah, tell John to worry up and sign the contract, man. Come on.
But, yeah, I mean that. I think a lot of people as well were expecting the John versus Tom announcement. And I. I was. I was one of them. I was kind of with, you know, are we gonna get it? Yeah, we're gonna get it, but I think we're gonna have to wait a little bit longer for that one. I think it's coming, but I think, you know, John's the hold up here.
We'll see how it goes.
But speaking of John, there was one other thing in the news this. This week. I don't know if you remember, you know, before John fought Stipe. The, the, you know, we had the new gloves, you know, the gold champion gloves that they had, that they brought in. Yeah.
And then that event, all of a sudden they were gone. They were going back to the old clubs. So everyone was kind of a bit like, well, why? I mean, people will talk about these gloves not being that good anyway, you know, and looking a bit too loose. And the knockouts had dramatically dropped as soon as these new, new gloves were introduced. I even talked about why is everyone's face getting caught up like, you know, in Freddy Krueger's. Just give him a little tickle.
And. And then they said they were getting rid of the new gloves for pay per views, but they were still going to use them for fight nights. So it's like, okay, fair enough. This week they've said the new gloves are gone completely. No more new gloves. They're just gone. Old gloves back in. Yeah.
[01:00:13] Speaker B: And then Henry Cehudo almost loses an eye. Nice.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: Well, yeah.
[01:00:19] Speaker B: Apparently, anyway. But, yeah, yeah, but on the same.
[01:00:22] Speaker A: Card, the same card that we had seven finishes in a row. I mean, when was the last time that happened? That was just.
It was brilliant.
[01:00:31] Speaker B: That Moddy knockout to start a fight was.
[01:00:35] Speaker A: Let's, let's, let's, let's do this right here. Moddy, you absolute legend. That perfect mate. You know, I did a picks and predictions video with the MMA homies a couple of days ago, and I said to him, I said, listen, I said, Modestus is opening the card, and I'm telling you now, he's getting a first round standing ko. As soon as that fight finished, right, I had all the boys going, how the did you call that? I said, because I know, I predict these things, right? But I knew that.
I knew Moddy was locked in, know what I mean? And been speaking to him throughout the week, and, you know, he knew what he had to do and he made a, he made a statement with that, with that one. Do you know what I mean? Set the tone for the rest of the card, you know what I mean?
Oh.
[01:01:28] Speaker B: Oh, we're back.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Don't worry.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: That was weird. Yeah. I, I'd never seen Moddy look so dialed in. It was very. Yeah, it was, it was. It was scary, man. And then.
[01:01:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:43] Speaker B: I also don't remember the last time I seen someone get, like, sat down like that as well, like, properly slumped down.
[01:01:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, he was. Yeah. You remind me of when Roddy was doing the. The stairs like Modestus Piera, was it?
Yeah, he just locked in. Absolutely. Just fully focused and I'm gonna make the edit, I'm gonna do the face swap. I'll write that down.
That's my next meme that's gonna go viral.
But yeah, mate, the whole, the whole Seattle card was just phenomenal.
[01:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:25] Speaker A: But then, yeah, we had that weird, you know, ending with, with Cejudo.
I tell you what, mate, it's split MMA Twitter and MMA Instagram. You've got half of them saying that he was absolutely milking it. Do you know what I mean? He wanted to find, he wanted to find a way out and he took his opportunity to do so. Then you've got the other side saying, you don't know what he's talking about. His eyes were fucked, he couldn't see.
And he did what? He made the right call. I'm kind of, I've made the jokes, I've made the memes, but I don't know, I feel like, I think he messed himself up. If he'd have said in those five minutes, because he took the full five, fair play to him. Do you know what I mean?
[01:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:14] Speaker A: But then he sat at the edge of the fence chilling like he's on fucking holiday, waving at the crowd and that. And I'm just thinking, if he'd have said in those five minutes to Jason Herzog, look, I can't see, like my eyes compromised. I, I, I just can't go on. It would have been called a no contest. The fact that he said he could go on and they started the fourth round, that's why it went to the judges and, and Yudong was basically either, you know, three nil up or at least two one up. Do you know what I mean?
I think he just kind of messed things up a bit.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, Cehudo's been around long enough to understand what the rule base is. And I think the fact that he did continue to fight is kudos to him because he probably did know that he would have got a, a doctor's stoppage and yeah, would have been a no contest or, or, or, I don't know, is it, would it be a tko? I guess, I guess so.
[01:04:10] Speaker A: It's weird, right? Especially with the five round fights. It's such a weird thing because this was in the third round. Now if this was in the second round, it would have just been gold concept straight up. But before, because it was in the third, going into the fourth, it's like, I think if it had said in the fight, in the five minutes that he couldn't see, he can't go on I think it would have just been called a no contest or I don't know if it would have been a TKO win. I think it. Just because it was a foul either way. And I put. And they were. They were knuckles deep. Like, there's no two ways about it. Like, he got fingered right in them.
[01:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it was.
[01:04:45] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
I'm not. I'm not like. I'm not, like, putting eye pokes down there. Horrible, nasty things. I've been eye poked. I've had little tiny things in my eye that feels like there's a breeze block in there. Do you know what I mean? And I know how bad it is my eyes are. I'm not gonna lie. So I feel for him in that. I do.
But I think if. If it had got to the end of the round, end of the five minutes and said to her, look, I can't go on, it would have been a no contest.
Then you make the rematch, then I think Dana would have been more inclined to go, right, okay, let's run this back maybe. But I think it was the, okay, I'm fine. I can go on. And then he runs to the corner shouting, I can't see. I mean, I've never seen a fighter announce to everyone that he can't see. Usually they're trying to hide the fact that they can't see. They want to just keep going. Do you know what I mean?
But, yeah, it was a really weird turn of events. And. And then you've got him talking to Bisbin, of all people, about, oh, man, you know, I got eye pots and Bisping's like, right, tell me about it, mate. You can't see. Tell me about it. You know what I mean?
[01:05:55] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. It was a weird end to the main event. But to go back to your original thing, sorry, I took a slightly off course there about the. The gloves going. I think it's a good thing. I love seeing people knocked out.
[01:06:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:07] Speaker B: Dana really saw a fight as being able to grapple and thought, yeah, this. This is. This is not it.
[01:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:14] Speaker B: And just. Was Jon Jones involved?
I think if you look at that man's history of making things disappear. Usada, domestic charges, and I guess. I guess we can now add the new gloves to. To it. I think probably not.
[01:06:28] Speaker A: There's absolutely no, no evidence to suggest it. Apart from the fact that all of a sudden these gloves got. Got. Got rid of around the time Jon Jones came back and said, I don't like these. And Uncle Dana went, okay, they're gone. Do you know What I mean, so.
[01:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah, probably seen people get knocked out since they've. They're back. The old gloves are back again and gone, actually.
[01:06:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we're keeping these now. Do you know what I mean? I mean, do you know, I feel sorry for the poor bastards that bought them. Do you know what I mean? Because you could, you could. You could buy the gold ones and the new ones and this and the other, and they probably bought them going, yes, I've got the brand new gloves and two months later, Dana's gone. Now they shit, then I'm getting rid.
[01:07:12] Speaker B: Dana famously says that he sells holy moments for a living. And he does, he does with those. With those gloves. The only holy shit moment that I think you'd be able to sell was Israel Adesanya submitting Ankala.
[01:07:28] Speaker A: Could you imagine? I mean, it was. It was weird when those new gloves came in. It was. It was. It was poirier. I think it was Porier versus Islam. That was the event that they came in on. And the events after that, I think we think they went. The whole card was no knockouts. And then the next event, no knockouts. The next event. No, not. And everyone's kind of going, what the is going on here? You know, I think even Dagger himself said, yeah, I was getting a bit worried.
So, yeah, old, old, old gloves back just bleed. Guys ripping the shirts off with the paint all over him. It was brilliant. UFC Seattle was just. I think we're looking at potential. So far, it's the only early but potential fight night of the year so far. Definitely.
[01:08:17] Speaker B: Come on, we got. We've got London coming up. What are you on about?
[01:08:19] Speaker A: Well, that's why I said so far. Do you know what I mean? London's gonna absolutely blow it out of the world. London's gonna be all submissions, all knockouts. Phenomenal night. Do you know what I mean? Molly McCan's gonna run around the ring again with the belt. Can't wait.
[01:08:38] Speaker B: It's gonna be good. I can't. I'm looking forward to it.
[01:08:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we've got a lot of planning to do. Like I say, 30 days and we're going to be down there. The against offense boys are going to be down there. I've been in, you know, we've been talking about some plans for that week, aren't we?
[01:08:52] Speaker B: Yeah, lots of content ideas. I think there's a lot of things floating about. I think in the one of the previous episodes I said about cash's corners pop up. So that'll be fun. I think craters at that.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:02] Speaker B: Obviously we'll be doing a few bits in and around the O2. We will announce those closer to the time they're gonna be. Yeah, it's gonna be some fun stuff. I'm looking forward to it.
[01:09:12] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. It's gonna be. If things go the way that we're planning, that's gonna be brilliant. To be hilarious.
So, yeah, I think we. We never do things short, do we, Breezer? We always go the full cold hog, you know, I mean.
[01:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that, though. I think it's good at this point. I've enjoyed it.
[01:09:33] Speaker A: I know. Yeah. They've got halfway through, but you know what I mean? And they've just got it. They fell asleep by now. So if you're still awake listening to this, we'll give them a word to say and put in the comments. Right. What words should we give them?
[01:09:51] Speaker B: Oh, that's a tough. I don't know.
Say Iliad to Poria smells. If you're still here.
When people come to the video and they're looking at the comment section and it's just, yeah, Iliad's poor smells don't.
[01:10:12] Speaker A: Look like Volkanovsky and Max Holloway have been watching. Do you know what I mean?
[01:10:17] Speaker B: I might make a burner account called Volkanovsky.
[01:10:22] Speaker A: Brilliant. But, yeah, there you go, boys and girls. Put that in the comments below. If you're listening on YouTube or if you're listening Castos or anywhere else. Just.
I don't know. Thanks for. Thanks for listening so long. And we'll start wrapping it up here now. Breezy, you got anything you want to sign off on?
[01:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I wanted to give a shout out to the. The white monster king. He also loves a good old one of these bad boys as well. His diet. His diet genuinely is white monsters. And this Frankie Gibson, he's mates with Lonnie Kavanaugh. He lives with Lonnie Kavanaugh?
[01:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:10:57] Speaker B: And he's. He's friends with like, Will from Casa's Corners and stuff. And he just. He got himself. He won his. And then they. Bout last night. So he. He's a pro fighter fighting out of gb. Top team.
[01:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I've seen that picture with the. The white monster for. Is that the one?
[01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, he's got the white monster gun.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him.
[01:11:21] Speaker A: White monster is the one right there. You know, that, that. That's helped us get through so many fight nights, so many pay per view nights. Do you know what I mean? That's the bad boy monster, you know, What?
[01:11:29] Speaker B: I mean, if you've got, if you've got. If you've got Instagram. He's got some great videos in there on there of like him and like what monsters and like his diet just like he's like packing, ready to go for training and like in like, you know them little lunch boxes you had as a kid, you like clip the things down. One in one of them he's got a pack of that and then in the other one he's got like three of them.
Yeah, he's got some really funny kind of like little, little cameos and like skits and stuff. Yeah, it's good.
[01:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:11:56] Speaker B: But yeah, I just want to give him a shout out because he won last night. It was, it was good to see.
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[01:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I've already lost a few followers over my ceudo comments, so, you know, we'll see what happens by the end of this week.
But yes, guys, thanks for listening to us. Thanks for having us and we will catch you in the next one. Take care. See you in a bit.
